A podcast to accompany the online and digital work and intervention at the Wardlaw Museum as part of the MLitt Museum & Gallery Studies programme at University of St Andrews. The podcast series, The Curiosity Conversation, speaks with a different expert every month to explore the world through the unexpected, ground-breaking or contested aspects of the stories museums tell. This episode features a conversation with art historian Susannah Thompson on the work of the artist and writer Maud Sulter, whose work is included in the exhibition and forms part of the collection at University of St Andrews Museums. The invitation was based on the ART UK article by Thompson on Sulter's Zabat, published in December 2021.