Research data management in the visual arts can be seen as complex and diverse with actual research data being tangible and intangible; digital and physical; heterogeneous and infinite; and complex and complicated, it does not always fit into the natural scheme of data management. Therefore the development of policies for arts related data management and systems/infrastructure and training packages should be aware of thinking outside the box, and lending themselves to being more iterative and open to interpretation. With the help of funding from JISC and the AHRC The Glasgow School of Art (GSA) has been able to partner with other arts institutes to look at the concept of RDM in the arts, and develop training packages and toolkits to help support researchers and postgraduate students. The projects were KAPTUR, which ultimately brought about VADS4R, both of which were led by the Centre for Digital Scholarship, a research centre at the University for the Creative Arts.